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![[*]](./images/corporate/default_icon.gif) posted on 5/16/2005 at 09:07 AM |
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Lol! I'm sure my method depends on whatcha prefer 
And I'm still guessing yours'll look fine in print. Besides, yeah, if the test print looks good, then it should look fine!
In case you're curious, here are some ComicWorks tones zoomed in:
60 lines per....inch?
80 lines
100 lines
I find it interesting that the 60-line dots are more uneven than the finer dots. I thought it'd be the other way around. Anywho, these look great
in print. So methinks you're good 
By the way, you've got to be the humblest awesome artist I've ever met--you have way more professional experience than a lot of people with book
deals at TP, and a lot of them are so freaking snobby and conceited. So yeah, good for you!
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| posted on 5/16/2005 at 11:37 AM |
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WOW! Comicworks dots look like that? Hrrrrmmmm....
I think the only way to get the roundest dots is to work at 2000 dpi... Hahaha, I wonder what TP would say when they get files at that dpi!
About the humble thing, thanks! In the years I've worked I've been humbled many, many times. 
I was pretty conceited when I first broke in too. Hahahaha. But maybe it's because I was like 20 years old at the time? Anyways, it's people like
you and the people on these boards, with your level of talent and abiliies that puts me in my place right quick!
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| posted on 5/16/2005 at 01:18 PM |
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| posted on 6/13/2005 at 08:34 AM |
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Do I have to do the whole dot-matrix/ halftone thing? When I toned the BP entry for RSOM I just toned it all in different shades of gray, no dots or
halftones. It looks good on others' work...don't really like it on mine. TP didn't say anything to me anout switching everything to halftone so I
suppose there's really no problem with the way I did it......hope not...
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| posted on 6/13/2005 at 11:21 AM |
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Hey, Blue! (can I just call you Blue?)
Sup! I haven't had a chance to go through your stuff yet. Been sooooo busy trying to get Batgirl back on schedule... It's kinda killing me.
I'll get back to you on that stuff in a bit.
I think TP can print gray tones. Or so I've heard. Not 100 % sure but... Maybe they convert the gray tones to a halftone screen like what I do??
I'm sure it'll look fine! Your stuff kicks sooo much ass that you need something to keep you from making all of the rest of us look bad.
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| posted on 6/13/2005 at 11:31 AM |
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AAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Make the REST of you look bad??!! I don't think so but thanx. Everybody sure does know how to humble me.
It's no worries about checkin' my stuff out, cat. You get done what you gotta do first. My stuff can definitley wait. As for the pin-up though.
All I gotta do is tone it. How do you want me to send it to you and in what format? thanx!
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| posted on 6/14/2005 at 07:41 AM |
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Oh, I wanted to mention that I bought a "How to Draw Manga book: Computones"
I was flipping through it at the store and noticed it talked about a few texture patterns and what not. Anyhow it came with a CD and I had to leave,
so I just bought it.
Seriously, this was a GOOD buy. The CD was a filter program for PS and has all of the patterns that the book talks about. Very impressive for 30
bones. Anyways, I am totally using the patterns that came with the book for BLANK. I realize you could probably go out there and find the exact
patterns and textures for maybe free, but this was so much more simpler than the search.
Oh, you can get the same textures from Comicworks. I just haven't fidgeted with comicworks at all because I'm not a fan of the interface right now.
Plus, I don't have the time to learn it with my busy schedule.
So, yeah. Those HOw to Draw Manga books get a bad rap but I bought and used this one.
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| posted on 6/15/2005 at 01:31 AM |
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Good to know!! I'll see if I can find that at my bookstore!
I have HTDM's anatomy book--it's a good ref. They don't really explain stuff, and their crotch shots make me laugh, but yeah!
As for grey--yes, TP can print in greyscale. They just can't do BOTH grey AND tones. That'll most likely give your tones a moire pattern, since
basically TP's gotta re-divide everything into tones again to make the greyscale work, so then the real tones look like crap.
Uhm, I think that most editors prefer tones, but I'm sure it's up to you and what you think looks nicest.
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| posted on 6/15/2005 at 08:09 PM |
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Actually, you are totally correct. TP does print in grayscale.
Dang, so happy you are here, Tentopet!
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| posted on 6/15/2005 at 09:21 PM |
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Lol thanks! I actually didn't know that until AFTER I made my RSOM entry, so I'm not THAT knowledgeable...found out on Pseudome!
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| posted on 7/21/2005 at 04:46 PM |
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I followed Pop Mhan's tutorial for the tones. I resized it after I got everything done and the little dots disappeared. 
http://their.lastsong.net/test.jpg
What can be done about that? 
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| posted on 7/21/2005 at 11:46 PM |
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Uhm, don't resize! Tones are for print! If you're doing it for print but you also want to display it online, you're gonna have to zoom out in
Photoshop and press that print screen button and paste on to a new file and edit it. Or sometimes I use the Windows XP picture viewer, because if you
take the window of the picture viewer and mess it the size of it, it actually resizes tones pretty smoothly. And again, I press the print screen
button.
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| posted on 7/22/2005 at 01:50 AM |
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What do you mean by edit it? Well, would it be okay if I resized the image, then added tones to it?
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| posted on 7/22/2005 at 10:22 AM |
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No....
By "edit it", I meant when you print screen you have the picture along with lotsa other stuff that was on your screen with it, so you've gotta
select the actual picture once you paste it in a photoshop file, and then you copy, new file, paste, save as a JPEG or whatever and poof! You've got
resized tones. I don't really get what you're talking about, exactly! In order to view it online, the dots will look more grey. There's no way a
computer can pick up on such fine details. So either you're gonna have to use super coarse and ugly dots, or you're gonna have to deal with a
grey-er look. Tones are for print, not viewing online exactly.
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| posted on 7/23/2005 at 08:39 PM |
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Thanks for the tech help, Tentopet! Nothing but love for you!
Ok, gotta go back and finish laying down tiles for this house.... tired...
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| posted on 10/15/2005 at 07:18 AM |
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when putting together your manga on photoshop how do you resize the pictures and join them on one page? like if you drew seperate pictures and wanted
to put them together to make a manga page? please help!
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| posted on 11/3/2005 at 04:32 PM |
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:O thx a lot for the tutorial!!!
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| posted on 11/9/2005 at 05:42 AM |
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Anon1: I'll do a tutorial for joining pages later. There's no trick to it. It's a lot of patience and a royal pain in the butt. Which is why I
bout a 11 x 17 scanner. the A3 from Mustek.
Anon2: You are most welcome!
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| posted on 1/14/2006 at 05:17 PM |
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thank you so much for the tutorial ^o^ it's awsome!!
i toned some drawings but when i save them in tif format they get HUGE! like.. 20~25Mb! is that normal? o_O am i doing something wrong?
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| posted on 1/26/2006 at 02:39 PM |
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TIF's are very big without some form of compression.
Most people don't like to use compression as it sometimes isn't universal. Meaning some people can't open the file.
Don't worry you're not doing anything wrong!
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